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June Jones Was Right: Tim Tebow is a System Quarterback
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Sep 14 2008, 11:24 am - By Shadowguard18


 

June Jones was right.  

 

I didn't think so at the time he said it.  But, the more I think about it.  The more I see Tim Tebow and the things he does.

 

The more I hear the word "legend" thrown around when describing Tebow's athletic feats or even his inhuman training regimen or his unmatched competitiveness.  The more I realize that June Jones was right.

 

Although, I don't know if Jones even realizes he was right, considering he himself didn't believe what he was saying when he said it!  

 

The reality is Tebow is the only true "system" quarterback to ever play the game.  You see, Tebow is in fact a system unto himself.

 

Every other QB in the past relied on a system to allow them to function.   Pocket passers rely on a pocket passing system.  

 

We don't even realize what a contrived system it is because it's been in vogue for so long.  Pocket passers rely on great receivers and incredibly complex and contrived passing routes and cuts, misdirection and guile.  

 

Pocket passers rely on their running backs to pound the ball up the middle to open the passing lanes and take pressure off their receivers.  

 

Pocket passers rely on their linemen to create the pocket for them to operate in a sea of tranquility.  

 

The reality is that all of this is a system.  Pocket passers are system players.  

 

This is where Tebow is different.  He relies less on a system than any other QB before him.  Tebow himself is the system. His linemen create no pocket.  His line is like a sieve. 

 

Defenders are pouring through, hitting Tebow or pressuring him on every play before he even has a chance to catch the ball, yet Tebow uses his running ability to elude these defenders and get a pass off with a 6-foot-7 defensive lineman in his face.  

 

Tebow uses his Pro Bowl linebacker's body to absorb monster hits while he is getting his passes off under immense pressure or to throw off would-be tacklers.  

 

He uses his running back's speed that is the equal of Dennis Dixon and Vince Young to run both inside and outside of the tackles. This in turn opens his receivers' passing game and opens up lanes for his running backs rather than the other way around.

 

He uses his elite arm to take pressure of his own running game and his running backs.

 

No QB in history has had as many options as Tebow.  Critics said Tebow amassed 55 touchdowns last season because he was running them in from two to five yards out.

 

But they ignore the fact that Tebow's running was what got his team to within a couple yards of the end zone in the first place.

 

Tebow wasn't filling the role of a finesse runner last season like other running QBs.  He was the one pounding the ball up the middle, opening the perimeter for his receivers.  

People don't realize it,  but last season Tebow was filling the two toughest positions in football by himself: that of the prime running back, running the ball between the tackles;

and the quarterback.

 

This is different than any other QB in the past.  No other running QB has been as adept at both running and passing as Tebow, nor as durable on top of it.

 

Tebow is able to pound out the tough yards up the middle, as well as the finesse yards outside the tackles. Though people haven't seen his finesse running game enough, because he hasn't had a between-the-tackles running back to complement him. And he doesn't need them to function either.

 

Tebow is the low post player of running QB's.  He is the Tim Duncan or Shaq of running QBs, where Mike Vick and Vince Young were the Kobe's and AI's of running QBs.  Volume shooters. Perimeter players.

 

It's the low post players who win championships. Although Tebow can pass the ball like a true pocket passer, too, making him a Tim Duncan who can hit his free throws and three pointers as well.

 

Tebow doesn't run because he can't pass.  He runs because if Tom Brady or Peyton Manning could run like Tebow they would do it, too.  And they would be far better for it.

Defenses are too fast nowadays.  Peyton Manning is as good a pure passer as we have ever seen, yet he only has one championship.  Why is that?

 

The league has a dirty secret.  One they don't even realize they have.  One that is smacking them in the face, yet they refuse to accept it.  

 

The pure pocket passer is dead.  And he's been dead for awhile.  

 

But the NFL is too slow to adapt, too uncreative to build the right kinds of systems around the more athletic QBs that could be cultivated.

 

The college game is like a looking glass to the NFL future.  They can experiment like the NFL can't.. they don't have to worry about 10-year veterans being unable to fit into their system if traded for or signed.

 

This is why the spread is propagating so rapidly in the college game. There is too much athletic parity in college. In the pros, offenses don't have the advantage they did in recent years.  Defenses are too big, fast and strong across the board.

 

Pocket passers can't be protected like they were in the past.  Look at Brady in the Super Bowl. Even with his stellar offensive line, he was pounded savagely.  Look at Peyton Manning: the best pocket passer of this era, yet he only has one championship.

 

In the 70s or 80s, he would probably have three or four championships, at least. Just the other day, Brady and the opposing QB both went down in the same game, Brady for the season.  Both are pure pocket passers.

 

I saw the same thing in a game last season.  Two NFL pocket passers went down in the same game with serious injuries.

 

Other offensive systems of the past relied on all different elements of the offense working together to allow the QB to be successful and all kinds of contrived offensive maneuvers to make them work or dominant players at other positions like Randy Moss or TO as a receiver or Brandon Jacobs as a running back.

 

Tebow is the prime mover of his offense unlike any QB before.  The Tebow system relies on making the game as simple as imaginable, rather than as complex as imaginable. This illustrates why it in fact is a system devoid of a system.  

 

This is what separates Tebow.  This is why if Tebow is a system QB it is a system unlike any we have ever seen. It is the Tim Tebow system.

 

The only question is...will the NFL be smart enough to let him use it?  I think they will.

 I think Tebow will force the league to realize that running athletic QB's are superior if used properly.  It took someone like Tebow, who is way ahead of his time, who spontaneously developed, to act as the impetus for change.

 

 

 

from bleacher report

Sep 15 2008, 5:00 am - Replied by: DrDeath


No! The "Tim Tebow System" will never work in the NFL because Tebow would be dead by the time he played his 5th or 6th game. All these hits he is taking are college hits. He hasn't been hit by Ray Lewis or Brian Urlacher or Derrick Brooks.

The NFL has its own faults with being stuck in certain ways of thinking, but the "Tebow System" is a sure fire way to get your QB killed in the NFL. Any team foolish enough to draft Tebow in the first round, pay him upwards of $70 million dollars and then have him run the same system as he is doing in Florida right now, is a team that just doesn't have a clue.

Some of the so-called best college players struggle with the speed of the NFL and the athleticism that they face from every single player. Just this past week Glenn Dorsey was talking about how amazed he was when facing the Patriots in his first NFL game. And Dorsey was one of those can't miss guys coming out. He already sounds over-whelmed.

The Run & Shoot was successful in the NFL as all three teams using it, Detroit, Atlanta and Houston, made the playoffs while in that system when they had been long removed from playoff contention prior to using it. Two of the QB's, Warren Moon and Jeff George, set numerous records and the RB's averaged NFL leading yards per carry averages between 4.6 and 5.1 per. None of the Run & Shoot QB's in the NFL suffered injuries either. But this "Tebow System" would be impossible to run... for one, there's only one Tebow, and two, he simply would be crushed from the hits.

Leave the "Tebow System" in college where it belongs.

Sep 15 2008, 2:59 pm - Replied by: Harniss


Don't you Tebow haters have anything better to do? It's funny how I come here for news on hawaii football and STILL can't get away from tebow news...Damn, get over it.

 

Why aren't you talking about SMU's Mitchell throwing five picks and Jones STILL standing behind him for the 3-O Horned frogs next week...Jones is overated, he got a lot of credit for having a very good quarterback on his team. Now where is he? (And please spare me the blah, blah, rebuilding shit)

 

 

Go SMU! (just kidding)
Sep 17 2008, 10:11 pm - Replied by: J_David_Miller


Hey, they all laughed when June Jones took the job at Hawaii and turned down $7.5 million to coach the San Diego Chargers. He took a last-place program and, whether anyone likes it or not, believes it or not, or even cares, took them to them to the Sugar Bowl. Don't tell me about how they got whipped, or that Colt Brennan  didn't play well, or any other nonsense. The fact is, they got there. Hawaii, for gosh-sakes.

 

Furthermore, if you actually read the article that was posted, it wasn't Tebow bashing. It was giving him credit for Florida's success.

 

But I can tell you -- and I was standing on the Hawaii bench when we played Florida -- that Tebow does most of it on his own. That's just a fact.

 

Keep laughing at SMU. That will only last a little while. I've known June Jones for nearly 30 years, and he's never been a loser. Suffered a few losing seasons, like any coach, but you'll see. Turning around SMU is like turning around a battleship in a bathtub, but if anybody can do it, it's June Jones.

J David Miller
Sep 18 2008, 6:27 pm - Replied by: Harniss


Well I will be in the stands at the SMU/TCU game, it's always a big deal in Dallas. That is if I survive the notorious tailgating that starts & 10am!

 

I know it's too late to judge June, but the people of Dallas are known for big cars, hot blondes, and zero patience with turn-around teams.  A drubbing form their hated Forth Worth rivals will not help matters...

Go SMU! (just kidding)
Sep 26 2008, 2:39 pm - Replied by: Harniss


The drubbing SMU took from TCU was painful to witness live. Losing to Tulane didn't exactly help matters either. Coah Jones looked a litle shell shocked in his post game. I feel bad for him, Dallas is a tough town with unrelenting football expectations. Especially when the Horned Frogs are killing it.
Go SMU! (just kidding)
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